Hogan was big into this. Yes, that above but Is this something everyone should be doing, or is it very specific to a certain type of swing? I've always just played with whatever I had, but I'm now trying to work my way up to being able to afford a set that actually fits me. Used to be 6'1" but I've shrunk a little. Ultimately, your answer is yes, you can do this. If he had a decent swing he most likely would be playing irons 4-5 deg. Equipment counts courtesy of Darrell Survey. 4. Anyone know if most pros have this done? For example, when the club is flat, the toe of the club makes contact first and gets slowed down a bit so the clubface opens a bit promoting a fade. The good news is that the vast majority of irons can be bent, even those that are high-quality cast. Why do Pro's and some amatures have their irons bent 1* stronger. Then again, I'm not sure that the spin you are talking about is a problem. I'm curious about this as well. The most common adjustment is lie angle, not loft. 2. [quote name='dlygrisse' post='1857448' date='Aug 1 2009, 11:07 PM']When buying shoes I noticed a lot of the shoes in the stores inventory were size 10.[/quote] Here are the lofts of the irons in that set. [size=5][b] I've noticed that some of the higher launching/spinning players on tour (Rory, J-Day, etc) have their irons bent strong and I'm looking to hear some pro's and con's of doing this. Using an example of bending a full club strong, say 4*, what's the difference in hitting a 7 iron at *32 to hitting a 6 iron at *32. gonna give the "reality" recommendation so far. [quote name='cxx' timestamp='1441038802' post='12239622'] PING's i210 are the second most popular with 8 using them. [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1444240339' post='12423306'] The majority of handicap golfers fight a slice. Do you have any recommendations for drills or things to practice in order to improve it? Look at a face on vid at impact and notice hand/front wrist position. [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1444240339' post='12423306'] Can then bend the irons to get the sole level at impact - or with Ping you'll order them to suit. RBZ 25* hb; RBZstage 2 19* hb [quote name='Kenny Lee Puckett' timestamp='144131685' post='12246270'] [/quote]actually a "good" player (one who actually CAN control trajectory) could grab 10 different clubs off a rack and MAKE the ball flight in the air look VERY similar (no, that doesn't mean they are all ideal for the player, and no that doesn't mean they all fit him). Ordering & Information You can strengthen the loft, which will reduce the spin and travel further but won't really fix your problem which I think is too much spin for given trajectory and distance. Cleveland RTX 2.0 50*, 55*, 60* PGA Tour players swing the club fast. You need to make sure that bending your clubs is right for your game, as you dont want to jeopardize what you already have. Bending say, 2* strong would have minimal effect on offset. And while you can bend your golf clubs at home, its best to send them to a custom club fitter unless you have invested in a golf club bending machine. [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1444240339' post='12423306'] This is especially true of clubs made with long hosels. Fit the lie angle so that when [b]YOU[/b] swing that club the sole of the club is 'flat' to the ground ie neither too upright nor too flat - this is when the impact tape on the sole of the club will show the impact/rubbing to be in the middle of the sole. The cb301 had an x100 and the blade had a modus 125x. The most easy 'drill' is just hit it lower visually place a hoola hoop a few feet downline and hit the ball through it. 9-iron - 39.5 degrees. Does the aggressive swing impart that much more dynamic loft and create that much more spin? It will just require substituting a hybrid for the 5 iron and up rather than for the 4 iron and up. YOU have to be in control of trajectory in your iron play, tweaking your specs is just a bandaid. You cannot paste images directly. Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x 3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2" 4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2" 4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400. 4-iron - 20.5 degrees. [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1441037749' post='12239474'] (Who Makes Them? I agree with what you're saying entirely, I know I have to get my spinloft down. XXIO X Series 5 Wood! Coops, Thanks but I'm more curious about launch angle. Using an example of bending a full club strong, say 4*, what's the difference in hitting a 7 iron at *32 to hitting a 6 iron at *32. If you wanted to know more about how the process works of bending the loft and lie angle of clubs, watch the video below from Mitchell Golf: Although golfers often buy new golf clubs instead of modifying their current irons, bending clubs is a great way to make changes to the loft of your clubs to help you improve your accuracy and consistency. Will the clubs dig more or enough to tell a difference? Did I just answer my owne questions, do pro's bend the clubs stronger to have less bounce? I am now thinking I am just going to bend my 712 Ap2 irons to the 714 AP2 specs so my gaps will match up better with my wedges. or The iron will roll 'open' when bent strong. While you can theoretically bend fairway woods and hybrids, the design and loft of irons mean that you can bend them to ensure that they're consistent from one club to the next. [/quote] There are the following reasons why you want to bend a club head. YOU have to be in control of trajectory in your iron play, tweaking your specs is just a bandaid. This sounds like a lot of advice from people who have never been high ball speed, high spin, high trajectory players. Most guys would love to have a little extra spin on those longer irons to hold greens, personally I would tweak the swing a bit but I wouldn't really change to much else as you have a huge advantage having that little extra spin there with a club like a 6 iron. If the hosel design and manufacturing processes allow it, the lie of an iron can be bent 3-4 degrees or more with no compromise to the integrity of the head. You could bend them stronger but like anything there's a chance something breaks. Every set of clubs sold should have some sort of custom work on them if fitted properly. Bending irons 2 degrees stronger gopher99 May 9, 2021 May 9, 2021 Thread starter #1 G gopher99 Active member Joined Mar 15, 2019 Messages 235 Hi, i need some info from the more knowledgeable people on here than myself, I would like to bend my mizuno 921 forged irons 2 degrees stronger to fit in with the gapping on my wedges. bigo2398, August 31, 2015 in WRX Club Techs. Biggest difference is in hit 2 degree upright in the center much more often and not as thin. I'm curious about this as well. Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here. If you don't like bend them back. You'll shallow out impact (lower AoA) and reduce dynamic loft > combined they will reduce spin loft. All rights reserved. There is a tendency to over analyze things here, and the thought that a degree or two of loft making that big of a difference is often over exaggerated. I have a set of S58s where the bounce is already generous, so no issues. Iwas wondering if I could bend my 712 AP2 irons strong and not see any changes in the irons. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 24, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 17, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 10, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 27, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 20, By #3 there are no real cons, bend away and try it. Odyssey Pro #1 black So, no matter the type of golf irons that you have, you can bend them to adjust their degrees of loft. As far as launch angle goes, that isnt really as important on irons because you have so many of them (compared to 1 driver etc). #2 reason is to space yardage gaps as needed. Callaway Rogue Max LS 9* Tensei AV Blue 6, Titleist TSi3 strong 3w 13.5* PX HSRDUS black 70, Titleist TS3 19* hybrid Tensei Blue/Titleist TS3 23* TenseiBlue, Vokey SM8 50*F & 56*M Callaway Jaws MD5 60*. There are different golf club bending machines out there at different price points, so you have lots of options to choose from if you want to bend your clubs yourself. Clear editor. Depending on how often you play, iron head material softer forged carbon steels will move more with regular use and course conditions (firm versus soft), you very well could benefit from. Just because you have 130 yds to pin doesn't mean it's automatically a PW..depends on alot of factors Setting aside the discussion about why lofts are getting stronger, I was wondering why someone would bend the lofts strong rather than use the next club in the bag and swing smooth. [/quote] an 8 iron is easier to hit than a 6 iron), I'm trying to draw comparisons to modern irons with stronger lofts, and if . Loft and lie changes are more or less permanent. Nike Vapor Flex 9.5* Left/Low, Rogue Max Low 75TX Privacy Policy Vice versa if the club is upright. [quote name='cxx' timestamp='1441038802' post='12239622'] [/quote] Thanks everybody for the help! WRXer 'harpu728' kicks off the thread saying: "Being that higher-lofted irons within the same set are easier to hit (i.e. The mark on the sole will show if your clubhead is level or toe up or down at impact. Testing for correct lie angle is very easy - they'll put some tape along the sole of the club and get you to hit balls off a lie board (just a hard surface, can use the mat also but a good flat hard surface makes the mark easier to see). rjklein4470, June 3, 2009 in WRX Club Techs. [quote name='Kenny Lee Puckett' timestamp='1441131685' post='12246270'] But weight is not the only trick at a club designer's disposal. It is very easy to do these modifications, and also recommended by a lot of folks to have your set checked either frequently or at the end of each year in case any changes happened during the season from general play. Setting aside the discussion about why lofts are getting stronger, I was wondering why someone would bend the lofts strong rather than use the next club in the bag and swing smooth. I had my Vr pros bent 2* strong and it did both. tiger does it, hyuck hyuck. Add in the added forgiveness of modern irons, and you have a winning combination. Basically almost all irons we offer on ExactGolf like all Miuras, Honmas TR20, Vegas and some Mizunos. 6-iron launch: 17* Terms & Conditions So, there is obviously a new standard that the club-manufacturers have begun, so lets say the NEW 7-iron loft . If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. As for whether or not you should bend your irons, its really up to you. PW-iron - 44.5 degrees. This also means youre much less likely to screw the process up, and your clubs will be bent to perfection! If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Looking For Advice or Feedback, Stealth 3 Wood, Unique Odyssey, RTX Raw, Epic Flash, Ping Eye 2 BeCu 1 iron - $1,000here me out, Your Choice of EvnRoll ER11v Mallets ($210). Nike VR Pro LE 15*, 'Ahina 75s 6-iron spin: 6850 RPM Did I just answer my owne questions, do pro's bend the clubs stronger to have less bounce? Mizuno JPX 921 Hot Metal. How I go about it would be to get your loft and lies checked, then hit ball on trackman/flightscope/gc2, figure your carry numbers and adjust accordingly if you are that serious about doing it. I had one fitter tell me I could play at 4 deg flat but that seemed a little extreme. A 4 iron only has 1 degree of bounce standard so will I have negative bounce when bent two degrees strong? Albion, MI 49224 Not sure about the AP2s. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pszXHplqx4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pszXHplqx4[/url] (DTL). One way to make the necessary adjustments to your golf clubs is to bend them. [/quote] All Rights Reserved. This is helpful if you want to adjust instead of replacing your irons, particularly if their loft angles arent as they should be. You can easily bend the lofts and lies to be progressively consistent from one club to the next with zero tolerance. 5-G I read your comments on why some bend lofts on iron sets strong and i try to swing smooth because to me swinging hard offers little to no benefit ,please remember im talking about me and not others in general , i have lost speed on my swing over the last 5 years where it was noticable to me , but i truly started losing speed after my rotator cuff and bicep tendon tear on my right arm , i cant say it was a noticable difference but that is when it started in 2010 is when i started bending all my irons strong because of lost distance because i was hitting irons 1/4 to 1/2 a club different and it progressed over the next few seasons to a full 1/2 a club or about 2 degree's and then came a hip replacement in 2014 and when i got back to playing regularly i was bending a 46 degree wedge to 43 degree / 9 iron 39 degree's and so on and i did that to try to get to the same distance i had in 2010 where i hit GW 110 / PW 120 /9 iron 130 and it progressed from there .. The 2-degree limit is only recommended when changing the lofts on irons due to the potential effect such bends will have on the sole angle of the club. Pros and cons? It is just a way to fit the club for your swing, nothing that is going to help your game unless you fall into the same catagory. I'm curious about this as well. After being bent, high-quality cast clubs dont go back to their original position either, ensuring you achieve the desired results after bending your clubs. Your link has been automatically embedded. And that is forged soft steel clubheads and there are several forging methods and processes available. 8 iron 38 160 These are forgiving clubs so you can work on this new action and learn it in relative safety. It wouldn't surprise me if that's exactly why Jason Day chooses to play 4-P all bent a club strong. Thanks. Why not take one more club, and how much distance do you gain with 1*. A Good Fit for a Clubfitter is the Post Fit. But my arms are more like someone 6'4" to 6'5". Upload or insert images from URL. [/quote] Do you have any recommendations for drills or things to practice in order to improve it?
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